"Future Approach to Homestuck^2"

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"Future Approach to Homestuck^2"

Post by Speg » Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:16 pm

So the patreon just released a new announcement about the future of Homestuck 2.
Tl;dr, there's not gonna be any more updates until the story is finished in full and Andrew addressed the reasons for starting the epilogues/hs2 as well as talking about some harassments the team has been getting

Here's the update, available for everyone: https://www.patreon.com/posts/future-approach-47431875

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Re: "Future Approach to Homestuck^2"

Post by Speg » Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:24 pm

Oh also, they changed the "About" page on the hs2 site, now calling it an "officially commissioned story"

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Re: "Future Approach to Homestuck^2"

Post by harmoniousCalamity » Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:41 pm

Honestly this is unsurprising, and I don't condone the abuse or harassment slammed towards the team members in any way shape or form. Though the thing that surprised me is that Andrew said he didn't know how to get a handle on it. As if he doesn't know how his actions have hemorrhaged his own fan base to the point of near death, essentially, and that continuing in the same path would only cause...more of the same.

...I'm not sure how he didn't expect this honestly.

At least we know that hs2 is really a fan fic now???
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Re: "Future Approach to Homestuck^2"

Post by Speg » Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:55 pm

I'm honestly most surprised at the fact that they're just gonna wait until they're finished and release it all in one big post, ala Epilogues style. At least that's what I understood from the post.
Totally not surprising they decided to can it after the response it's been getting though, and the fact like he said in the post, the reaction from the fandom wasn't exactly getting any better

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Re: "Future Approach to Homestuck^2"

Post by harmoniousCalamity » Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:49 pm

Speg wrote:
Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:55 pm
I'm honestly most surprised at the fact that they're just gonna wait until they're finished and release it all in one big post, ala Epilogues style. At least that's what I understood from the post.
Totally not surprising they decided to can it after the response it's been getting though, and the fact like he said in the post, the reaction from the fandom wasn't exactly getting any better
Yeah same, thought honestly they would've just dropped it all together, so at least they're sticking to their guns?

But we know it's not like h2 is suddenly going to get a favorable response either once they drop it all at once...whenever that may be.

So who knows why they're doing this, maybe they think they can handle the hate/criticism wave all at once?
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Re: "Future Approach to Homestuck^2"

Post by BrobyDDark » Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:26 pm

I admire the honesty and wanting to get his crew away from threats and people being bigoted to them.

However, once the product is finished in its whole, the critics (IE me) and the harrassers (not me), will have more to say in a shorter amount of time, that will be repeated over a longer amount of time, instead of previously where they'll say something small and then forget HS^2 even updated until the next one. So unless this is one of those situations where the workers will be anonymous for awhile I'm not sure how much this will help.

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Re: "Future Approach to Homestuck^2"

Post by bersona3 » Fri Feb 12, 2021 11:36 am

well that's... news! i dont know how much i can express my opinion on hussie without breaking some forum rules so keeping it brief: there are some bold things he is saying about the fandom in this post. i do not agree with harassers whatsoever and lumping in every critic of hs^2 with those who said the real heinous stuff is pretty lame. i also think releasing everything at once is... weird. honestly, as many problems i had with hs^2, the fact that it updated monthly (mostly) means that there was feedback, and the team could, hopefully, incorporate some of it in the work. now that's... well, not possible now.

i suspect that this isn't quite the full story. regardless though i hope those working on the comic are able to do well and take their minds off of harassment they had gotten now that they'll be a bit more away from the public... i dunno this is just a lot. welcome to the new future of homestuck
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Re: "Future Approach to Homestuck^2"

Post by NAKNAKNAK » Fri Feb 12, 2021 12:02 pm

bersona3 wrote:
Fri Feb 12, 2021 11:36 am
the fact that it updated monthly (mostly) means that there was feedback, and the team could, hopefully, incorporate some of it in the work. now that's... well, not possible now.
I'm fine with losing that aspect. Having Ultimate Dirk act as pseudo voice of the fandom was interesting at first but over time just seemed like a cheap response to criticism and treated anything that wasn't just praise as something that just seemed bitter. Like when someone just repeats back what you said faster and in a higher pitch and acts as if it's an actual argument.
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Re: "Future Approach to Homestuck^2"

Post by BrobyDDark » Fri Feb 12, 2021 12:03 pm

Imo this move prolly means it's dead.

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Re: "Future Approach to Homestuck^2"

Post by harmoniousCalamity » Fri Feb 12, 2021 12:18 pm

BrobyDDark wrote:
Fri Feb 12, 2021 12:03 pm
Imo this move prolly means it's dead.
This is what I'm thinking too? Like as much as I am invested to see how weirdly awful hs^2 can get, pulling back and doing this sort of pause just screams that it's going to die in production and fade to dust :/
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Re: "Future Approach to Homestuck^2"

Post by Shitpost Lizard » Fri Feb 12, 2021 3:09 pm

Honestly, with the current direction it was going in, I wouldn't mind HS2 dying or being put on the backburner in favor of more Hiveswap content anyway.

I have... opinions about the news post, but I can't really express them here without breaking any rules.
Reddit? Probably.
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Re: "Future Approach to Homestuck^2"

Post by Generalrabogolfo » Fri Feb 12, 2021 5:22 pm

NAKNAKNAK wrote:
Fri Feb 12, 2021 12:02 pm
bersona3 wrote:
Fri Feb 12, 2021 11:36 am
the fact that it updated monthly (mostly) means that there was feedback, and the team could, hopefully, incorporate some of it in the work. now that's... well, not possible now.
I'm fine with losing that aspect. Having Ultimate Dirk act as pseudo voice of the fandom was interesting at first but over time just seemed like a cheap response to criticism and treated anything that wasn't just praise as something that just seemed bitter. Like when someone just repeats back what you said faster and in a higher pitch and acts as if it's an actual argument.
what time? theres been no dirk for ages now lmao
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Re: "Future Approach to Homestuck^2"

Post by BrobyDDark » Fri Feb 12, 2021 5:25 pm

Shitpost Lizard wrote:
Fri Feb 12, 2021 3:09 pm
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I dunno. Much more well-liked properties get harrassment and death threats. It's not hard to believe that the HS^2 was getting shat upon in a not-so-constructive way.

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Re: "Future Approach to Homestuck^2"

Post by Shitpost Lizard » Fri Feb 12, 2021 5:52 pm

BrobyDDark wrote:
Fri Feb 12, 2021 5:25 pm
I dunno. Much more well-liked properties get harrassment and death threats. It's not hard to believe that the HS^2 was getting shat upon in a not-so-constructive way.
Not about that part specifically.

Just the implication that it was a one-sided exchange.

Also I doubt that it was any worse than... literally what any other thing gets.
Lest we forget that they left out credits for Hiveswap 2 entirely at first to "avoid harassment" when at least a few of the development team wasn't even asked whether they wanted that or not.
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Re: "Future Approach to Homestuck^2"

Post by Khiara » Sat Feb 13, 2021 1:41 am

Shitpost Lizard wrote:
Fri Feb 12, 2021 5:52 pm
Lest we forget that they left out credits for Hiveswap 2 entirely at first to "avoid harassment" when at least a few of the development team wasn't even asked whether they wanted that or not.
Thank God I'm not the only one who found this "avoid harassment" thing fishy and... just sounds off.
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Re: "Future Approach to Homestuck^2"

Post by PurplePest29 » Sat Feb 13, 2021 8:38 am

Are you accussing them of pretending to get harassed? That is such a weird fucking thing to do. Have you not seen the huge amounts of hate? Ofc theyd be getting death threats and stuff. Kate alone must have gotten a few tons of it. Inevitably that amount trickles down to the entire team.

If you want an explanation, Hussie gave it. He is literally incompetent at handling this.

When people hate other properties, they dont seem anywhere near as out for blood. Not to mention, against individual people too. Larger properties dont come across as individuals at all so hate is directed at them in general
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Re: "Future Approach to Homestuck^2"

Post by stark » Sat Feb 13, 2021 1:08 pm

i thought the whole point of homestuck 2 was to get funds through the patreon for hiveswap 2, and they obviously aren't making money off of it anymore, so i don't get why it's still going. hussie really is his own worst enemy
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Re: "Future Approach to Homestuck^2"

Post by TH4NK YOU B3N » Sat Feb 13, 2021 2:36 pm

I'll be waiting for the trend of HS^2 continuations that are just as pointless as all other HS fan adventure continuations.
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Re: "Future Approach to Homestuck^2"

Post by IU191 » Sat Feb 13, 2021 4:20 pm

LMAO

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Re: "Future Approach to Homestuck^2"

Post by Speg » Sat Feb 13, 2021 4:34 pm

stark wrote:
Sat Feb 13, 2021 1:08 pm
i thought the whole point of homestuck 2 was to get funds through the patreon for hiveswap 2, and they obviously aren't making money off of it anymore, so i don't get why it's still going. hussie really is his own worst enemy
I mean, even if they laundered hs2 money Happened to use the money to develop Hiveswap, I bet the team themself still cared about the comic. Just a shame it,, wasn't good. Or profitable now I suppose. Makes sense they'd turn this direction though with declining Patreon numbers if that were the only reason though 😔

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